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It is odd because the Queen in many ways seemed irrelevant in the context of recent history. But now that she has passed, it has powerfully hit me that there is not another singular person whose timeline of life so broadly encapsulates and signifies four generations of geo-politics, cultural and societal change, literally nearly a century of the history of the West. She wasn't just a person, understood in the usual sense; and not even an important person like a president or prime minister. It's probably difficult for many Americans to understand what a Monarch and Sovereign represents. Though there is continuity with Charles, I have a sense that a door has definitively closed on a past chapter of history, and an uncertain future is ahead. I feel saddened, reflective, and melancholy, much more so than I thought I would be at this news. A part of all of our lives has gone.
Ya gotta remember, she knew each & every U.S. President since Harry Truman. And each & every British Prime Minister since Winston Churchill.toomanycats wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:29 pmIt is odd because the Queen in many ways seemed irrelevant in the context of recent history. But now that she has passed, it has powerfully hit me that there is not another singular person whose life so broadly encapsulates and signifies a century of geo-politics, cultural and societal change, literally nearly a century of the history of the West. She wasn't just a person, understood in the usual sense; and not even a president or prime minister. It's probably difficult for Americans to understand what a Monarch and Sovereign represents. Though there is continuity with Charles, I have a sense that a door has closed on the past, and an uncertain future is ahead. I feel saddened, reflective, and melancholy, much more so than I thought I would be at this news. A part of all of our lives has gone.
Wow, that's an incredible story!mickey wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:41 pmYa gotta remember, she knew each & every U.S. President since Harry Truman. And each & every British Prime Minister since Winston Churchill.toomanycats wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 5:29 pmIt is odd because the Queen in many ways seemed irrelevant in the context of recent history. But now that she has passed, it has powerfully hit me that there is not another singular person whose life so broadly encapsulates and signifies a century of geo-politics, cultural and societal change, literally nearly a century of the history of the West. She wasn't just a person, understood in the usual sense; and not even a president or prime minister. It's probably difficult for Americans to understand what a Monarch and Sovereign represents. Though there is continuity with Charles, I have a sense that a door has closed on the past, and an uncertain future is ahead. I feel saddened, reflective, and melancholy, much more so than I thought I would be at this news. A part of all of our lives has gone.
A guy I was stationed with in the U.K. was hitchhiking back to the base from Peterborough & got picked up by a lady his mother's age who was wearing jeans & a flannel shirt driving a Land Rover. She kept him occupied in active conversation until dropping him off at the main entrance to the base. When he got out his jaw dropped! He had not realized who she was. But when he closed the door to the Land Rover he noticed the crest on the door and the profile of the lady on the door was the same as the lady driving the Land Rover. Our base was on the main road between her Sandringham Estate & London. You would think she would have had bodyguards, a police escort or something. But no, just the Corgi in the Land Rover with her.
If you've not seen it, I would recommend the 2006 Helen Mirren film "The Queen".tonebender wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 6:45 pm Based on what I have learned about her recently, that sounds exactly like something she would do Mickey. When that guy broke into her room at Buckingham palace years ago, she sat and talked to him and listened to all he had to say. She would not let them take him away until they had a nice chat. He was upset about being out of work, his wife leaving him, etc. She was unique and fearless.
When you say "Huntingdon Hotel", was that the name of the hotel or the town where it was located???BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 pm The king is a fink! Someone had to say it.
@mickey great story there, I never heard one like that. I enjoyed my work trips to the UK, but never got a royal ride. I did accidentally mistake John Major's family homestead for my Huntingdon hotel once (I was off by 2 or 3 blocks) when he was the sitting PM. Guards came quickly out of the gate with guns pointed at us for that conversation.
Charles has always been good at shooting himself in the foot.
If I recall correctly, it was called "Huntingdon House", and it was just outside of Huntingdon.mickey wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:55 pmWhen you say "Huntingdon Hotel", was that the name of the hotel or the town where it was located???BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 pm The king is a fink! Someone had to say it.
@mickey great story there, I never heard one like that. I enjoyed my work trips to the UK, but never got a royal ride. I did accidentally mistake John Major's family homestead for my Huntingdon hotel once (I was off by 2 or 3 blocks) when he was the sitting PM. Guards came quickly out of the gate with guns pointed at us for that conversation.
I don't remember the hotel, but I was stationed at R.A.F. Alconbury, Huntingdon 1970, 71, 72.BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:20 pmIf I recall correctly, it was called "Huntingdon House", and it was just outside of Huntingdon.mickey wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:55 pmWhen you say "Huntingdon Hotel", was that the name of the hotel or the town where it was located???BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 pm The king is a fink! Someone had to say it.
@mickey great story there, I never heard one like that. I enjoyed my work trips to the UK, but never got a royal ride. I did accidentally mistake John Major's family homestead for my Huntingdon hotel once (I was off by 2 or 3 blocks) when he was the sitting PM. Guards came quickly out of the gate with guns pointed at us for that conversation.
I've been to Alconbury a few times too, and Molesworth. Small world. Yeah, I heard about Cromwell too, LOL. Come to think of it, the hotel might have been called the Stukeley, but my memory fails on that - I haven't been there since maybe 1992 or 1993. All they told us was it looked like a stately manor, and so did John Major's house.
I do remember there was a Little Stukeley & a Great Stukeley which were both tiny towns. When I was there I do not remember any stately manors in the Huntingdon area. Also, when I was there R.A.F. Alconbury was one of the most secret U.S. bases in Europe. It was one of the largest nuclear storage depots on that side of the pond. U.S. recon planes have always been unarmed but every RF-4C that I ever saw was capable of carrying nukes. Our mission should WW3 have happened was to take out Eastern Europe. Last time I checked Google Earth all the Nuke Storage bunkers are long gone. I'm sure I would be having the FBI knocking on my door if I had said that publicly in the 1970's.BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:36 pmI've been to Alconbury a few times too, and Molesworth. Small world. Yeah, I heard about Cromwell too, LOL. Come to think of it, the hotel might have been called the Stukeley, but my memory fails on that - I haven't been there since maybe 1992 or 1993. All they told us was it looked like a stately manor, and so did John Major's house.
If I recall my English history correctly, after the Stuart Restoration Cromwell's bones were exhumed, then posthumously subjected to a mock trail, after which his moldering carcass was executed.mickey wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:25 pmAbout the only claim to fame Huntingdon ever had was that it was the home of Oliver Cromwell, but I think they tried to keep that quiet.BatUtilityBelt wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 7:20 pmIf I recall correctly, it was called "Huntingdon House", and it was just outside of Huntingdon.![]()